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If a user group gets financial support from The Big Vendor, the vendor might try to intervene directly if a) they don’t like a certain title or item on your agenda, and b) you let them – just once – do it.
In the latter case, rest assured they can smell weakness, and they won't forget it.
It’s not very nice to see, especially not when you see chairs of SIG’s and user groups giving in. But it happens. And as I said: When it has happened once, it won’t stop – there’s no way back.
As in other power games in life, if you blink first, you lose.
What you'll often see is what I call the (Google-in-)China syndrome: The Chinese threatened (stick), yet offered financial incentives (carrot), and sadly the so-called "non-Evil" guys at Google blinked to the Evil guys and will forever be tainted by it.
Forget Yahoo, who did the same – they never claimed to be cooler and more independent, like Google does. But Google became Yet Another Prostitute (YAP) that sad day. Shame on them. I simply fail to understand why anyone would want to work for such a spineless "leadership".
Regarding the user groups, it should be said in all fairness that it’s mostly a problem at the aggregate (national and supra-national) level, whereas I see many excellent, independent local conferences these days, perhaps as a counter-reaction.
Three examples of things I've seen:
Exhibit A:
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Oracle now invites speakers to present at Oracle Open World, pay their expenses, etc. – provided they do exactly what they’re told, including only sounding positive about Oracle features and adhering to various standards, including Powerpoint templates. Nobody else can present at OOW - only the ones Oracle has found well-behaved enough.
Tempting, isn’t it? The Devil comes in many disguises, as they say. In effect the word for it is prostitution, I’m afraid. What you can be certain of is that any presentation by non-Oracle's at OOW will have been officially OK'ed by Oracle marketing types. No independent or critical points of views are allowed anymore.
Exhibit B:
==========
Oracle successfully managed to scare the UKOUG RAC SIG chair person from letting me present the 'You Probably Don't Need RAC II' paper at a meeting by threatening to cut financial support. The chair blinked, unfortunately, and will have to continue blinking from now on (he's their bitch now, as they would say in modern speak).
In effect, therefore, this SIG cannot ever become independent again under this chair. By the way: I don’t care whether I present my paper or not for this SIG – I’m just illustrating how it happens and what the consequences are.
Exhibit C:
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Oracle’s EMEA manager for the Oracle Spatial extra-cost option tried to have a presentation by ESRI (a big, American Oracle partner that makes a spatial product based on Oracle databases) removed from a Scottish user conference. The argument went that this was a product competing with Spatial. Uhm, well, user groups are among other things about telling users what choices they have, including what partner solutions are out there based on Oracle technology. So much for partner programs in Oracle. As should be expected, the Scots refused, and Oracle backed down.
Please note, that although I personally don’t like Oracle trying to influence contents of magazines and SIG meetings and conferences (I see WAY better behaviour from IBM and Microsoft in that respect), I guess that’s what some people in Oracle do, and Oracle is probably not the only vendor doing it. It's up to individuals to resist these temptations on behalf on the other users. If the individual person doesn't resist, then the divide-and-conquer thing can happen.
My point is that user groups should be fiercely independent of vendors in order to be – well – user groups for its members. Users shouldn’t expect mouth pieces and sanitized marketing PPT’s from a group of users (a.k.a. a user group).
It used to be that way. When I started the Danish Oracle User Group together with my friend Mogens Egan in 1987, Oracle would contribute when we asked or when we thought it was good stuff, but otherwise they'd stay in the background and be happy about a lively user community.
Larry's personality shines through the whole organisation in this respect, too, unfortunately. Users should behave - or else. Some of them are either scared or tempted into submission and will - sadly - forever be Larry's prostitutes.
A whole, separate class of prostitution is of course the companies that will try to sell anything Oracle says they should sell, even when they know it's not for the benefit of the client. Those guys will take any message from Oracle and go out and try to convince their clients that this is the truth, the only truth and nothing but the truth. Yet they talk about how they will stop at nothing to deliver the optimal solution for the client, etc., etc. These people are lying prostitutes, and that's of course worse :-). You know them when you see them.
If a user group gets financial support from The Big Vendor, the vendor might try to intervene directly if a) they don’t like a certain title or item on your agenda, and b) you let them – just once – do it.
In the latter case, rest assured they can smell weakness, and they won't forget it.
It’s not very nice to see, especially not when you see chairs of SIG’s and user groups giving in. But it happens. And as I said: When it has happened once, it won’t stop – there’s no way back.
As in other power games in life, if you blink first, you lose.
What you'll often see is what I call the (Google-in-)China syndrome: The Chinese threatened (stick), yet offered financial incentives (carrot), and sadly the so-called "non-Evil" guys at Google blinked to the Evil guys and will forever be tainted by it.
Forget Yahoo, who did the same – they never claimed to be cooler and more independent, like Google does. But Google became Yet Another Prostitute (YAP) that sad day. Shame on them. I simply fail to understand why anyone would want to work for such a spineless "leadership".
Regarding the user groups, it should be said in all fairness that it’s mostly a problem at the aggregate (national and supra-national) level, whereas I see many excellent, independent local conferences these days, perhaps as a counter-reaction.
Three examples of things I've seen:
Exhibit A:
==========
Oracle now invites speakers to present at Oracle Open World, pay their expenses, etc. – provided they do exactly what they’re told, including only sounding positive about Oracle features and adhering to various standards, including Powerpoint templates. Nobody else can present at OOW - only the ones Oracle has found well-behaved enough.
Tempting, isn’t it? The Devil comes in many disguises, as they say. In effect the word for it is prostitution, I’m afraid. What you can be certain of is that any presentation by non-Oracle's at OOW will have been officially OK'ed by Oracle marketing types. No independent or critical points of views are allowed anymore.
Exhibit B:
==========
Oracle successfully managed to scare the UKOUG RAC SIG chair person from letting me present the 'You Probably Don't Need RAC II' paper at a meeting by threatening to cut financial support. The chair blinked, unfortunately, and will have to continue blinking from now on (he's their bitch now, as they would say in modern speak).
In effect, therefore, this SIG cannot ever become independent again under this chair. By the way: I don’t care whether I present my paper or not for this SIG – I’m just illustrating how it happens and what the consequences are.
Exhibit C:
==========
Oracle’s EMEA manager for the Oracle Spatial extra-cost option tried to have a presentation by ESRI (a big, American Oracle partner that makes a spatial product based on Oracle databases) removed from a Scottish user conference. The argument went that this was a product competing with Spatial. Uhm, well, user groups are among other things about telling users what choices they have, including what partner solutions are out there based on Oracle technology. So much for partner programs in Oracle. As should be expected, the Scots refused, and Oracle backed down.
Please note, that although I personally don’t like Oracle trying to influence contents of magazines and SIG meetings and conferences (I see WAY better behaviour from IBM and Microsoft in that respect), I guess that’s what some people in Oracle do, and Oracle is probably not the only vendor doing it. It's up to individuals to resist these temptations on behalf on the other users. If the individual person doesn't resist, then the divide-and-conquer thing can happen.
My point is that user groups should be fiercely independent of vendors in order to be – well – user groups for its members. Users shouldn’t expect mouth pieces and sanitized marketing PPT’s from a group of users (a.k.a. a user group).
It used to be that way. When I started the Danish Oracle User Group together with my friend Mogens Egan in 1987, Oracle would contribute when we asked or when we thought it was good stuff, but otherwise they'd stay in the background and be happy about a lively user community.
Larry's personality shines through the whole organisation in this respect, too, unfortunately. Users should behave - or else. Some of them are either scared or tempted into submission and will - sadly - forever be Larry's prostitutes.
A whole, separate class of prostitution is of course the companies that will try to sell anything Oracle says they should sell, even when they know it's not for the benefit of the client. Those guys will take any message from Oracle and go out and try to convince their clients that this is the truth, the only truth and nothing but the truth. Yet they talk about how they will stop at nothing to deliver the optimal solution for the client, etc., etc. These people are lying prostitutes, and that's of course worse :-). You know them when you see them.
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sso i guess i should never expect to be invied to an Oracle sponsered event then, eh?;-) i think i'll stick to Miracle events anyway.;-)
Yeah, I'm afraid I have no good news for you w.r.t. Oracle paying your airfare and hotel at the next OOW. Sorry, old chap.
didn't use to be like this in the early days. I do recall having my ticket and hotel subsidised by Oracle at quite a few OAPUG events and I *never* agreed to saying only what they wanted.
Then again in those days Oracle neded all the help it could get to become an established force in the db world, so they accepted the status quo.
From about 1994 onwards when a certain kind of marketing established itself in the company here, it all changed.
Mostly, it became "do as we say or else".
So I took the "else" and was never back to talk at their "UG events".
Looks like it's happening worldwide now. That's progress...
Indeed. Oracle needed help, but they also appreciated help back then. It was about transferring knowledge, building communities and confidence, and getting customers to help customers.
I attended the OAUG conference in Honolulu in 2000 where Oracle cut all funding and support and participation two weeks before the event - no warning. Way to go. Way to get new friends :).
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Mr. NoGood,
This post illustrates again why you've that fantastic nickname!
Aren't you afraid for your life now? Larry will come after you! He has a car, plain and boat so you're not save anywhere... ;-)
Honestly, we're starting with the IOUG APEX SIG and we had also a meeting with the APEX Dev. Team of Oracle at OOW, but I liked it very much (see also my blog). It was a constructive and fun meeting and although I'm a huge fan of Oracle and APEX, I also said things that could be improved.
In fact, on Sunday we had the APEX SIG panel and we started with "top 3 things to improve/missing features" and found "bugs".
Michael Hitchwa, VP Oracle APEX, got the panel notes, but he wasn't angry or anything, instead he wants to help us... as we have all the same goal... make the product better.
But I also worked for Oracle and I know what you mean! I just want to say it's not everyone at Oracle behaving like this.
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